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The Vatican II Council was started by Pope John XXIII in 1962, and was ended by Pope Paul VI in 1965. Basically, the Pope and a bunch of Bishops got together in Rome to solve some problems and give the Catholic Church it's "roadmap" for the next few hundred years.
The product of Vatican II is mostly four documents called (in Latin): Lumen Gentium, Dei Verbum, Sacrosanctum Concilium, and Gaudium et Spes. There are also twelve less-important documents.
In this text, we're going to talk about the infamous "spirit" of Vatican II, which is a coded expression used by liberal Protestants who pretend to be Catholics (i.e. "crypto-Protestants"), when they talk about their excessively left-wing interpretation of Vatican II. We won't talk here about the other exaggeration, the excessively right-wing interpretation of so-called extreme "Traditionalists".
The spirit of Vatican II, canonized by Leftists.
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If you want to find this mysterious "spirit" of Vatican II, don't waste your time reading the official documents of Vatican II! On the contrary, those official documents specifically contradict this "spirit"! This is why, inevitably, when some crypto-Protestant starts talking about the "Good Old Days" of the "spirit of Vatican II", they either abstain from actual quotes, or stick with the romantic but vague passages like the famous introduction to Gaudium et Spes:
"The joys and the hopes, the griefs and the anxieties of the men of this age [...] these are the joys and hopes, the griefs and anxieties of the followers of Christ. Indeed, nothing genuinely human fails to raise an echo in their hearts."
To actually find out what this "spirit" means, you have to go read statements written by dissident Priests and Nuns. For example, in 2006, the Canadian Religious Conference (CRC), presided by Alain Ambeault and claiming to represent 230 religious congregations throughout the country, published a 26-page open letter "To our Brother Bishops" ([broken link: www.crc-canada.org/bd/fichierNouveaute/284_1.pdf] PDF file, about 118K), which I was told was written by Father André Charron, CSC.
Their demands are based on the "spirit" of Vatican II and, as usual, revolve around 4 main objectives:
- Destruction of the leadership of Christ;
- Destruction of the Revelation of Christ;
- Destruction of the Family;
- Destruction of the Liturgy and Sacraments.
Let's look at some quotes from the CRC letter, along with quotes from actual Vatican II documents.
3.1)
Satanic "spirit" on collegiality:
"4. [We regret] The eclipse or retreat of major
inroads of the Vatican II Council, on collegial structure and collegiality, as
proposed and adopted at that Council" (p. 22)
"1. [We regret] That often our hierarchical Church, far from the progressive statements and
proposals of the Vatican II Council, still exerts a clerical, minimally
synodic and minimally collegial power in leading the People of God." (p. 10)
Actual Vatican II quotes:
"But the college or body of Bishops has no authority unless it is understood
together with the Roman Pontiff, the successor of Peter as its head. The
Pope's power of primacy over all, both pastors and faithful, remains whole and
intact. In virtue of his office, that is as Vicar of Christ and pastor of the
whole Church, the Roman Pontiff has full, supreme and universal power over the
Church. And he is always free to exercise this power."
Lumen
Gentium, #22, §2.
"And all this teaching about the institution, the perpetuity, the meaning and
reason for the sacred primacy of the Roman Pontiff and of his infallible
magisterium, this Sacred Council again proposes to be firmly believed by all
the faithful."
Lumen
Gentium, #18, §2.
3.2)
Satanic "spirit" on "autonomy" of Bishops from Rome:
"2. [We regret] The reticence of Bishops to express what could be perceived as
contradicting or softening Rome's discourse." (p. 22)
Actual Vatican II quotes:
"Bishops, teaching in communion with the Roman Pontiff, are to be respected by
all as witnesses to divine and Catholic truth. In matters of faith and morals,
the bishops speak in the name of Christ and the faithful are to accept their
teaching and adhere to it with a religious assent"
Lumen
Gentium, #25, §1.
"Although the individual bishops do not enjoy the prerogative of
infallibility, they nevertheless proclaim Christ's doctrine infallibly
whenever, even though dispersed through the world, but still maintaining the
bond of communion among themselves and with the successor of Peter, and
authentically teaching matters of faith and morals, they are in agreement on
one position as definitively to be held."
Lumen
Gentium, #25, §2.
4.1)
Satanic "spirit" on who decides what Christ should say:
"7. [We regret] That our Church has so little influence in the great social
debates, because of its conservatism and that of Rome which it supports, and
also because it does not accept any dissent, even responsible dissent. It
stifles its prophets..." (p. 23)
Actual Vatican II quote:
"But the task of authentically interpreting the word of God, whether written
or handed on, has been entrusted exclusively to the living Magisterium
of the Church, whose authority is exercised in the name of Jesus Christ.
This Magisterium is not above the word of God, but serves it, teaching
only what has been handed on, listening to it devoutly, guarding it
scrupulously and explaining it faithfully in accord with a divine commission
and with the help of the Holy Spirit, it draws from this one deposit of Faith
everything which it presents for belief as divinely revealed."
Dei
Verbum, #10, §2.
4.2)
Satanic "spirit" on unbridled ecumenism:
"11. [We regret] The position of our Church that creates a disservice to the cause of
ecumenism: a fear of dialogue with other Churches, other religions [...]" (p. 6)
Actual Vatican II quotes:
"Christ the Lord founded one Church and one Church only."
Unitatis
redintegratio, #1, §1.
"Nothing is so foreign to the spirit of ecumenism as a false irenicism, in
which the purity of Catholic doctrine suffers loss and its genuine and certain
meaning is clouded."
Unitatis
redintegratio, #11, §1.
"Common participation in worship (communicatio in sacris) which harms the
unity of the Church or involves formal acceptance of error or the danger of
aberration in the Faith, of scandal and indifferentism, is forbidden by divine
law."
Orientalium
ecclesiarum, #26.
4.3)
Satanic "spirit" on the unimportance of dogma and morals:
"6. [We regret] That our Church often gives priority to the reaffirmation of
dogma and traditional morals rather than listening to the people's search for
meaning and journeying alongside them in the discovery of their deeper
motivations." (p. 6)
Actual Vatican II quote:
"[Priests] should act toward men, not as seeking to please them, but in
accord with the demands of Christian doctrine and life. They should teach
them and admonish them as beloved sons, according to the words of the Apostle:
«Be urgent in season, out of season, reprove, entreat, rebuke in all patience
and doctrine»"
Presbyterorum
ordinis, #6, my emphasis.
5.1)
Satanic "spirit" on divorce and the pill:
"1. [We regret] In terms of ethics and bioethics, the holding
up of an ideal that leaves little room for advancement and progress; the
defence of principles that do not reflect human experience (divorce,
contraception, [...])." (p. 5)
Actual Vatican II quotes on divorce:
"For the good of the spouses and their off-springs as well as of society, the
existence of the sacred bond no longer depends on human decisions alone. For,
God Himself is the author of matrimony [...] Thus a
heman
and a woman, who by their compact of conjugal love "are no longer two, but one
flesh" (Matt. 19:ff) [...] As a mutual gift of two persons, this intimate union
and the good of the children impose total fidelity on the spouses and argue for
an unbreakable oneness between them."
Gaudium
et spes, #48, §1.
"It has always been the duty of Christian married partners but today it is the
greatest part of their apostolate to manifest and prove by their own way of
life the indissolubility and sacredness of the marriage bond"
Apostolicam
actuositatem, #11, §3.
Actual Vatican II quotes on the pill:
"Relying on these principles, sons of the Church may not undertake methods of
birth control which are found blameworthy by the teaching authority of the
Church in its unfolding of the divine law."
Gaudium
et spes, #51, §3.
"married love is too often profaned by excessive self-love, the
worship of pleasure and illicit practices against human generation."
Gaudium
et spes, #47, §2.
"For the Church is, by the will of Christ, the teacher of the truth. It is Her
duty to give utterance to, and authoritatively to teach, that truth which is
Christ Himself, and also to declare and confirm by Her authority those
principles of the moral order which have their origins in human nature
itself."
Dignitatis
Humanae, #14, §3.
(In other words, the Church has authority to infallibly interpret Natural Law,
which includes things like contraception, abortion, etc.)
6.1)
Satanic "spirit" on the general absolution:
"3. [We regret] The prohibition, by Roman authorities, from holding communal
celebrations of penance with general absolution despite the fact that the
People of God had expressed their positive support for this practice." (p. 14)
The Church is clearly against general absolution (See Misericordia Dei), but Vatican II doesn't say anything directly about it. There is one indirect quote, and I can't see how it could be compatible with general absolution:
"Pastors should also be mindful of how much the sacrament of Penance
contributes to developing the Christian life and, therefore, should always
make themselves available to hear the confessions of the faithful."
Christus
Dominus, #30, §2.
6.2)
Satanic "spirit" on married Priests:
"10. [We regret] The unconditional alignment of our Church with directives
issued from Rome: [...] the lack of consistency in regard [...] to married
priests..." (p. 6)
Actual Vatican II quote:
"[...] celibacy, which first was recommended to Priests, later in the Latin
Church was imposed upon all who were to be promoted to sacred orders. This
legislation, pertaining to those who are destined for the priesthood, this
holy synod again approves and confirms"
Presbyterorum
ordinis, #16, §3.
(Note that the paragraphs just before this quote beautifully explain why
priestly celibacy is such a good thing)
6.3)
Satanic "spirit" on fiddling with the Liturgical texts:
"2. [We regret] The resistance of efforts to translate and update liturgical
texts" (p. 14)
Actual Vatican II quote:
"Therefore no other person, even if he be a Priest, may add, remove, or change
anything in the liturgy on his own authority."
Sacrosanctum
Concilium, #22, §3.
There are some common demands, made in the name of the "spirit" of Vatican II, for which the actual Vatican II documents are (as far as I know) totally silent. I have no idea how the "spirit" of Vatican II came about to support those claims, especially since the teachings of the Church are crystal-clear concerning those topics.
7.1)
Satanic "spirit" on women's ordination:
"5. [We regret] That the ministerial role of women in our Church does not
reflect their numerical importance in communities; that they do not have
access to various decision-making processes or to all aspects of Church
ministry" (p. 10)
See "Women's Ordination, Or Feminist Propaganda?"
7.2)
Satanic "spirit" on homosexual attractions:
"9. [We regret] The legalistic image of the Catholic Church [...] its rigidity
and its intransigent stands on sexual morals; [...] its unwelcoming attitude
towards homosexuals: images and attitudes that represent a regression from the
evangelical perspectives advocated by Vatican II." (p. 6)
See "A Reading List for Homosexual Persons"
The best conclusion is probably another quote from the CRC document, but this time a passage that doesn't start with "We Regret":
"1. [We hope] That the universal Church, to be prophetic, recover the spirit of Vatican II and adopt the outlook expressed in the major documents of the Council. That the Canadian Church will influence the universal Church [...]" (p. 23)
All you need is to make a few changes to that quote, like saying that it's the Universal Church which should influence the "Canadian Church", and not the other way around!
But there is one thing in that quote which is just perfect as it is, i.e. that people like Alain Ambeault and the CRC should "adopt the outlook expressed in the major documents of the [Vatican II] Council"!
Alain Ambeault, typical crypto-Protestant of the CRC.
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On March 23, 2006, I invited the following CRC members to an Internet debate, concerning their "To our Brother Bishops" letter:
Margaret Toner, SCIC; Lise Barbeau, SCSL; Louise Stafford, FSP;
Jean Bellefeuille; Mary Corbett, CND; Sheila Smith, RSCJ;
Francine Cabana; Yvette Plessis, SCSL; David Bouchard; Jacques Morin;
Denis Douville
Canadian Religious Conference
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Tel.: (514) 259-0856
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